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Super-Saiyan Multipliers are non-sense. Agree or Disagree?
Topic Started: Apr 16 2015, 02:16 AM (1,695 Views)
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Apr 16 2015, 09:55 PM
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Apr 16 2015, 09:35 PM
They can be confusing I'll say that. They work sometimes but other times they don't.
It's not even whether they work or not. It's just I don't think it works with the legend. Why would the legend say mightiest warrior or something if it's just multiplication?
Yeah what would some ancient "magical" transformation have to do with a math problem? It just makes no sense from an in-universe perspective, as well as an out-of universe perspective. It's only use is for PL lists and debates, sometimes.
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Apr 16 2015, 11:47 PM
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Apr 16 2015, 09:55 PM
Rogafufuken
Apr 16 2015, 09:35 PM
They can be confusing I'll say that. They work sometimes but other times they don't.
It's not even whether they work or not. It's just I don't think it works with the legend. Why would the legend say mightiest warrior or something if it's just multiplication?
Yeah what would some ancient "magical" transformation have to do with a math problem? It just makes no sense from an in-universe perspective, as well as an out-of universe perspective. It's only use is for PL lists and debates, sometimes.
Exactly what I mean.
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No there are multipliers.

In the sense that you could multiply the base by something to get the transformation's power ;)
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I think even being a reserve of power would make more sense, l0l. I also think it'd be different for everyone.
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Apr 16 2015, 02:39 AM
Disagree. The manga doesn't indicate that the power increases from Super Saiyan forms are randomly different for different people, and essentially every piece of official material with an opinion to give says "Super Saiyan makes you about 50x stronger."

It's entirely up to the individual to accept that or not, but I personally don't see any reason to go against it.
but this *50 comes from a guidebook, do not forget that, it was never officially stated, moreover the author directly said that the supa saiyan gain should be *10 or something like that
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These guidebooks are the only thing to ever offer an answer to "how much more powerful does Super Saiyan make you" question in the first place.

Even Toriyama's oft-referenced word on the matter essentially just boils down to, "it's 50x, but it didn't 'feel' that big to me when I drew it." He didn't say it "should" be anything other than what EVERY data source since the manga's original run has said it is.

Like I said, it's up to the individual to use 50x or any other random set number in their own lists or whatever. But I see no reason to disagree with the one we've been handed on a platter time and time again.
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I love the 50× multiplier. I brush my teeth with it twice a day.
Edited by DEY DID DIS 2 ME, Apr 18 2015, 12:45 AM.
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Legendary of Super Saiyan

When you watch the Freeza arc, there was no multiplier, its like a potential or a legend which was unleashed by Goku. But if you watch the series, the Ssjin does have a multiplier.
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Apr 18 2015, 03:40 PM
When you watch the Freeza arc, there was no multiplier. But if you watch the series, there is.
I don't get you.
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